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I understand, something similar happened to me, I made good gains on bonus purchases although the amounts were smaller.

I can confirm that this happened to me in several casinos, after achieving good wins when purchasing bonuses, then when I insisted for more, I ended up having those bonus purchases completely flawed and losing everything or almost everything.

I still managed to make my withdrawal a few times, but it wasn't always like that.

I agree with you, the casino chooses the time of your prize and based on the knowledge of your way of playing, the more you show that you are not coming to make small withdrawals, the more the casino sets up this strategy of deceiving you with some winnings and then giving the blow, 😉

They know what they do

If it goes wrong, the money won comes from defeats of other players

Unfortunately this is how the casino works 🤷‍♂️

Eu entendo, ja aconteceu algo semelhante comigo, obtive bons ganhos nas compras de bónus embora os valores sejam menores.

Posso confirmar que isso me aconteceu em vários casinos, depois de alcançar as boas vitórias na compra de bónus depois ao insistir por mais acabei por ter essas compras de bónus completamente furadas e perder tudo ou quase tudo.

Ainda consegui em algumas vezes fazer meu saque nem sempre foi assim.

Eu concordo contigo, o casino escolhe a hora do teu prémio e com bases no conhecimento da tua maneira de jogar, quanto mais mostras que não vens para fazer pequenos saques mais o casino monta a tal estratégia de te iludir com alguns ganhos para depois dar o golpe, 😉

Eles sabem o que fazem

Caso corra mal o dinheiro ganho vem das derrostas de outros jogadores

Infelizmente é assim que funciona o casino 🤷‍♂️

Hello.

Can you help with this part, please?

"I agree with you, the casino chooses the time of your prize and based on the knowledge of your way of playing, the more you show that you are not coming to make small withdrawals, the more the casino sets up this strategy of deceiving you with some winnings and then giving the blow, 😉"

I'm just asking because it almost sounds like you are convinced your gameplay is being constantly monitored by someone who is ready to adjust something when the time is right.

Help me understand, please.

Hello Radka!

The translator is sometimes not better but I'll make a summary.

For me, casinos have strategies and always have, from my point of view, casinos observe players in terms of daily or weekly deposits.

A good player every casino wants. So after the casino observes the player, they know how far they can go with the player. If the player is addicted, it becomes easier for the casino because they know that the player will always spend everything they win, so the casino risks giving good wins, do you think casinos don't have strategies with their players?

Olá Radka!

O tradutor por vezes não é melhor mas vou fazer um resumo.

Para mim os casinos têm estratégias e sempre tiveram, ora no meu ponto de vista os casinos observam os jogadores a nível de depósitos diários ou semanais.

Um bom jogador todos os casinos querem. Então depois que o casino observa o jogador sabe até onde pode ir com o jogador. No caso de o jogador ser viciado fica mais fácil para o casino pois sabe que o jogador sempre vai gastar tudo o que ganha, então o casino arrisca dar boas vitórias, você acha que os casinos não têm estratégias com os seus jogadores?

Nice to meet you. Yes, this call teasing. Scatter teasing or big win teasing. During the big win, they always log me out, sometime once the bonus hit before the spin, they log me out or the game disconnected. So I know they doing something on backend, after this incident, no matter which domination you play, the machine is tight...very hard to hit any game. A lot of dead spin. You are right, this is sort of AI learning on your behavior. If you want to win, you can't always playing in the same method. You need to change, but I strongly advise you to stop if you have lose too much.

Bonus buy feature is very bad, you can always get 10% return for every bonus buy in normal play. But if you are new player, you will get like 70% to 90% return on the bonus buy, until you get a big win, the machine will become very tight. So.....I think it's not random. Usually a new player account is very easy to play, I understand what you always change casino. New account will be more easier to play. But, I can tell you that, you see the big win I got, but you didn't see how much I lost. No matter what game I go, the result is the same. No matter I use VPN or change to PC/Mobile, the result is same.

That why I said, this is not random.

Exactly, I came to these conclusions too.

I'm not playing anymore at the moment and I closed all the accounts I had in casinos.

Maybe I'll play again one day or not.

I changed my routine and I don't feel like playing for now, in the future I don't know what will happen.

But back to the conversation.

I was always careful to withdraw every time I reached €500 so I wasn't completely out of control, but in fact in the last 4 months I lost a lot more than I earned but beyond that it was wasted time.

On weekends I managed to play 8 hours straight 😏

This for me was the biggest problem of spending too much time playing.

Then I realized that the game was taking over me.

Fortunately, I'm managing to be away from the game well.

I thought it would cost me more.

🙂

Nice to meet you too

I hope you can have the best possible control in the game

Exatamente eu cheguei a essas conclusões também.

Eu de momento não estou a jogar mais e fechei todas as contas que tinha em casinos.

Talvez volte a jogar um dia ou não.

Mudei a minha rotina e não tenho vontade de jogar por agora, no futuro não sei o que vai acontecer.

Mas voltando a conversa.

Eu sempre tive o cuidado de levantar cada vez que chega se aos 500€ por isso não estava de todo descontrolado, mas na verdade nos últimos 4 meses perdi muito mais do que ganhei mas para além disso foi o tempo perdido.

Aos fins de semana dei conta de jogar 8h seguidas 😏

Esse para mim foi o maior problema tempo de mais a jogar.

Então dei conta que o jogo me estava a dominar.

Felizmente estou a conseguir bem ausentar-me do jogo.

Pensei que fosse me custar mais.

🙂

Prazer conhece-lo também

Espero que você consiga ter o melhor controlo possível no jogo

I'm sure you will back to game. Either by luring from advertisement or youtuber. New game provider and so on. But, if you are only play bonus buy, then I have no tips for it. Remember don't fall into the trap, example first spin 2 scatter and then next spin another scatter coming, this call almost hit luring. Usually this game come too frequent and hit the bonus soon, the payout is no good. You are spending too many hours on that, always set a maximum spins. Don't always just play one game. If game 1 you losing, change game 2, don't chase lose. Example game 1 game 2 you losing x100, game 3 still losing another x100, then you need to stop. No matter which game you go, it will still tight. Don't always think about how much you lose. I'm sure you can't get it back, we got too many example around us, casino always win. Don't fall into their trap. I saw too many people losing a lot money because of bonus buy feature trap, I hope you can escape from it. I can teach you to play this method, every game, same domination, x50 auto spin,if the machine dead spin on first 30 spin,just play turbo for next 20 spins. No matter what result after x50 spins just change game. Always remember, if you have huge win in game 1, even you change to game 2 game 3 the result will still the same ,they will bring your previous wining result to continue count, so the game will be tight, vice versa if you lose in game 1, 2 ,3, the game 4 will be more easy except those megaway, bonanza game. All the best my friend. I'm sure you almost read the RNG map like me, you know which game can play which cannot. But just to control your betting behaviour, just follow maximum spin per game which will control your budget.

Thanks for the tip, but I don't just play bonus purchases, although I always risk doing that when I win a reasonable prize or invest that prize in bonus purchases.

When I lose that money when purchasing bonuses I continue to play my initial money without purchasing bonuses, that was my system, playing only two slots.

Why do you think I'll play again?

YouTube I don't see anything about casinos.

I see advertising but ignore it because I already know what an online casino is.

Right now the best way to win at the casino is not to play

Don't go to the game 😉

But if you know all these gambling tactics why did you waste the big prize you won?

You seem like a smart player

Obrigado pela dica, mas eu não jogo só compra de bónus embora sempre arrisco fazer isso quando ganho um prémio razoável ou seja invisto esse prémio em compras de bónus.

Quando perco esse dinheiro na compra de bónus eu continuo a jogar o meu dinheiro inicial sem compra de bónus era esse o meu sistema jogando em duas slots apenas.

Porque você acha que eu vou voltar a jogar?

YouTube não vejo nada sobre casinos.

Publicidade vejo mas ignoro pois já sei o que é um casino online.

Neste momento a melhor maneira de ganhar no casino é não jogar

Não ir a jogo 😉

Mas se você sabe de todas essas táticas de jogo porque você desperdiçou o grande prémio que ganhou?

Você parece ser um jogador inteligente

You got the good point, that why I stop playing already.

I know is hard to get back my lost. Is not possible but hard unless I need to lose a lot money, but I don't want to take risk because some account dead is dead.

"But if you know all these gambling tactics why did you waste the big prize you won?" about this question, actually the account is very loose, until I mentioned, when you playing halfway account disconnected or force logout happen. This is proven. After this case, only I know it's control by casino and not random.

So now, I don't want to waste my time anymore. Those big win screen won't surprise me anymore. I lost the appetite on slot already. This is why I'm here to advise some player who needs.

I'm sincerely hope you don't go back to slot, even you can't sleep or miss some slot, don't go for it. Do not let casino earn it. I'm posting the screenshot is showing you all that you can easily get big win like me and also easily lose all your winning. Posting big win photo doesn't mean I win a lot in the end. My slot turnover is around USD100k and I lost around USD8k for this account. So I think is reasonable to meet the RTP.

You are the winner when you stop playing. All the best my friend 🙂

Hello!

Aha, I understand now; the point was partly lost due to translation...

Thanks for the summary.

I think I agree with you, I'd say such statistics are part of financial analyses. Under certain circumstances, I understand it may be seen as an advantage the casino tries to maintain.

I mean deposits, bets, withdrawals, and balances - that's all about numbers and good measures, and also, with math applied the proper way, you'll get results. Once you can read the results clearly this is where strategic planning takes place 🙂. Am I close?

It makes good sense now.

I'm sorry for your losses. Sometimes, the way to understand the odds is painful.

Have you heard that when it comes to mathematical advantage over players, slots are the most profitable games for casinos?

Sadly, many people tend to ignore that,... Maybe it's because far too often, the passion may be stronger than the cool judgment.

Yes, you are right.

But at the moment I'm on pause, I'm taking a break.

Therefore, the game strategies will not be applied at the moment.

Who knows, who knows, I might lose interest in playing online casino for good.

It will all depend on my new daily routine.

Sim você está certa.

Porém eu de momento estou em pausa, estou a dar um tempo.

Logo as estratégias de jogo não vão ser aplicadas de momento.

Quem sabe eu perca de vez o interesse em jogar casino online.

Tudo vai depender da minha nova rotina diária.

Exactly.

Accepting defeat is fundamental.

The biggest mistake players make is not accepting defeat and thinking they can recover. Lying will not recover, but you will lose even more.

Just like accepting victory.

Most players end up not accepting the win and handing everything over to the casino again.

It takes a lot of self-control to deal with these two situations I mentioned.

When it comes to gambling, you need to remember that the casino always wins.

We never have a chance of winning at the casino, so the old saying goes.

It won?! Raise the money and leave the game 😉

Exatamente isso.

Aceitar a derrota é fundamental.

O maior erro dos jogadores é não aceitar a derrota e pensar que pode recuperar, mentira não vai recuperar mas sim perder ainda mais.

Assim como aceitar a vitória.

A maioria dos jogadores acabam por não aceitar a vitória e entregam tudo de novo ao casino.

É preciso ter muito autocontrole para lidar com essas duas situações que mencionei.

Quanto ao jogo é preciso lembrar que o casino ganha sempre.

Nunca temos hipóteses de ganhar ao casino, por isso o velho ditado diz.

Ganhou?! Levante o dinheiro e saía do jogo 😉

Ya, this is more profitable depending on the service provider. Even nowadays the service provider willing to sharing lost with the Casino. Try imagine, the confident level they have. The CS from the casino told me that the Casino is earning a lot on slot. But they're very afraid on a "abnormal betting behavior" player, only these player can win money. The more detail I don't know but sound like they have already knowing how to beat the slot, but if you just playing like normal player, you will always lose.

It's okay for my lost, learn from the fall. otherwise I will still continue playing without aware on the trap. it's always very difficult to earn money from Casino.

You are right. The more frequent you play, the more deep the hole you fall. Just remember, you are not alone, many people able to come out from the fall. Just don't chase it anymore. Too many failure to chase lost. This is the Casino trap.

I've already accepted my defeats, I'm calm about that.

I'm away from the game and I intend to stay that way.

I know that there are many players losing a lot of money every day.

It's important to understand when it's time to stop, I managed to understand when it's time to stop.

Eu já aceitei as minhas derrotas, estou tranquilo quanto a isso.

Estou afastado do jogo e pretendo continuar assim.

Eu sei que tem muitos jogadores a perder muito dinheiro todos os dias.

É importante perceber a hora de parar, eu consegui perceber a minha hora de parar.

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Sounds reasonable 🙂.

One should do things worth trusting.

You sound very cool to me, and what you just wrote is also stated in the Casino Guru Fair Gambling Codex😎:

https://casino.guru/fair-gambling-codex-for-casinos#betting-patterns

"Our recommendation is quite simple: Don't use betting patterns as an excuse not to pay out winnings to players. These betting patterns can indeed be a sign that a player is doing something against the rules, but they shouldn't be the sole reason to penalize players."

Figures 🙂

In my place, they wont penalize player that they wont pay to the player. But they got one rules, example you deposit 100 and get 300 bonus, but you need to play at least 10x to withdraw the money. meaning you need to play at least 4000 dollar to withdraw it. Try imagine, which domination you need to play to reach 4000 turnover, the lower domination the lower chance you will win money or even finish all 400 dollar. Many didn't make it, but your losing is counting into your profile. Example you lose 100+300 in total, but when you next deposit 100, you may win around 400 due to previous lose you have. This is why, they reset your turnover or wallet amount by transfer all the money out. once you been reset, your profile will start from 0 again and your slot will start fresh again. Whether player abuse it? I think they're not. In the end will still casino in flavor. Recently they don't allow people to use this money to buy bonus as buy bonus will easily reach x10 turnover. Well, I don't think now casino will afraid player to abuse betting pattern, they r getting smatter and overcome it with a lot term and condition.

Hello.

Wagering 10x is quite nice, I'd say. Browse the bonuses list; the most common amount scales from 30x. 🙂

It is also normal that bonus buying is forbidden while playing with a bonus, and the maximum bet is also limited. Sounds normal to me; I can assure you.

Of course, the point is to make the wagering process more challenging. Bonuses cost casinos money and this is one way how to settler the score 😀.