La mia preoccupazione per il gioco pragmatico (pagina 3)

Providers that just keep you in the game but very rarely you see a big win as I believe are "AMATIC", "AMUSNET", "AMIGOGAMING", "BETSOFT", "ENDORPHINA", "REDRAKE".

 Good providers according to my knowledge are "GAMZIX", "3OAKS" "AVATARUX", BLUEPRINT", "MERKUR", "RELAX", "SYNOT", "NOLIMIT", "PLAYTECH" and "HACKSAW".

In my opinion, "PLAYNGO" has gone down a lot in recent years, you can see victory through binoculars.

hello jelena,

How can you explain to me that with big bass you can't even get to 10 with 30,000 spins and 300 free spins. For a year only 1-3 anglers. Nothing happens in the game anymore. I have hundreds of screenshots that prove this. also videos. Is that really in your interest? Or are the casinos allowed to change your specified RTP as they want?

I would appreciate an answer. Kind regards

hallo jelena,

wie können sie mir erklären, dass man bei big bass bei 30.000 spins und 300 freispielen nicht einmal ins mal 10 kommt. seit einem jahr nur mehr 1-3 angler. im spiel kommt gar nichts mehr. habe hunderte screenshots die das belegen. auch videos. ist das wirklich in eurem interesse? oder dürfen die casinos euren vorgegebenen rtp verändern wie sie wollen?

würde mich über eine antwort freuen. mfg

And then when you finally get a bonus game the pay out is poor. The only time I play big bass is when I get free spins awarded and then I have to mute the music be because it drives me nuts 🤪🤯. Also when you play either Gates of olympus or 1000 on demo he strikes nearly every drop but when you play for real 5/6 times then the max is x4 and if you get a good fall he never strikes down. Also like Sweet bonanza, Gates and big bass the amount of times you are one scatter short so many times it's mental torture!! Like the title of this post says Pragmatic are an International fraud. 🤬

As I said above, the casinos set the rtp in agreement with the providers. Countless times I've had the chance of well-known providers behaving well in the beginning, but after 2-3 big wins they become unrecognizable, the rtp plummets. Also, well-known providers have different returns from casino to casino

I joined another crap casino and got 100% bonus so had 40 played. 20 on their Gates of olympus he struck down about 3 times never won once never got more than 2 scatters money gone in minutes. Pragmatic are criminal! 🤬

My question is why do you keep trying on the same provider if you think you just can't win with it ? Don't you think a little break wouldn't hurt ? 🤔

Stop playing this provider, there is no other solution. Υou are absolutely right in what you say, they are very cunning

Many of the theories mentioned above regarding this fraudulent provider are confirmed. Recently I won in big bass splash with a stake of 1 EUR -> 250x. With a balance of over EUR 350, I went to Gates Of Olympus for a bonus buys session. Just 10 minutes of play was enough to realize what a cruel gambling world we live in today. I am an experienced player. My story dates back to 2015. There was a time when government bonuses of 1-5x were unheard of. Quite rare. Right now, my soul needs rest from this international mafia that only wants to take over your mind and take all your money. This world is on the brink and is leading to complete degeneration. It multiplies many problems.

I can now tell msl something from my own experience. Lost about 1000 on Cashwin.com on Thursday without making too many profits. On Friday with around 300 euros in deposits, I got at least 40 free spins on BigBass Bonanza on 1 euro, 1.20 and 1.50. Others 15 times for 2 euros on Christmas Big Bass, about 20 times for 1 euro and 1.20. On Halloween another 10 times to 1.20.

If you do the math, the free spins with a bonus purchase cost at least 8,000 euros. There were 60 free spins on one euro alone.

At the end of the day I had 1000 euros. The maximum win on Halloween was 250 euros. Otherwise you only win up to 60 euros.

I don't think everything is normal.

I'll suggest something. All of you should always take screenshots like I do, then we can all post anywhere. So I have 790 screenshots so far.

Ich kann nun msl wieder aus eigener Erfahrung etwas erzählen. Am Donnerstag ca 1000 bei Cashwin.com verloren ohne zu viele Gewinne zu erzielen. Am Freitag mit ca 300 Euro Einzahlungen, habe ich mindestens 40 mal Freispiele bei BigBass Bonanza auf 1 Euro, 1,20 und 1,50 bekommen. Andere 15 mal auf 2 Euro auf Christmas Big Bass, ca 20 mal auf 1 Euro und 1,20. Auf Halloween andere 10 mal auf 1,20.

Wenn mal so ausrechnen sollte , kosten die Freispiele bei Bonuskauf mind 8000 Euro. Alleine auf ein Euro waren 60 mal die Freispiele da.

Am Ende des Tages hatte ich 1000 Euro. Höchstgewinn war auf Halloween 250 Euro. Sonst immer nur bis 60 Euro Gewinne.

Ich glaube nicht das alles normal ist .

Ich schlage mal was vor. Alle von euch , sollen immer Screenshots machen so wie ich , dann können wir alle überall posten. Also ich habe 790 Screenshots bis jetzt.

That's it for me for the final time I will say I will never gamble another €1 at any casino Its not only Pragmatic that's totally corrupt they all are the RTP is a lie on all of them. I spent a couple of days last week taking the no deposit bonuses from casinos mostly in the USA where you get a free chip or free spins up to $125. The wagering is ridiculous but I just wanted to see if they were as bad. With the free spins I only once made more in profit than the free spins would have cost me. Then when I played with the profit or chip the slots were awful. Yes you would get wins but each time your balance would go down. When you got a bonus the return was terrible but I had nothing better to do and it's once and for all taught me that with the computer software winning is virtually impossible it's all controlled to take your money. It's a mugs game and I'm sure that a few years ago I was getting some decent wins but now it's a joke a waste of time and money.

Today the next attempt, Christmas Bonanza at 1.20 and 1.50 free spins 9 times, max win 51 euros.

On Big Bass 10 times approx free spins from a stake of 1 euro, max win 41 euros.

Bigger Bass 5 times on 0.96 stake, max win 29 euros.

Splash 4 times for 1 euro, max win 39 euros.

Heute den nächsten Versuch , Christmas Bonanza auf 1,20 und 1,50 Freispiele 9 mal , max Gewinn 51 Euro.

Auf Big Bass 10 mal ca Freispiele ab 1 Euro Einsatz , max Gewinn 41 Euro.

Bigger Bass 5 mal auf 0,96 Einsatz, max Gewinn 29 Euro.

Splash 4 mal auf 1 Euro , max Gewinn 39 Euro.

And it continues on Christmas Big bass, 13 times for a stake of 2 euros, a win for 215 euros, otherwise all others under 80 euros. 13 times 200 euros per free spins and never anything sensible.

Before that, more than 50 free spins with winnings under 100 euros.

Absolute software personal settings. No one can tell you otherwise. Have over 1000 screenshots. The biggest win is 800 euros with 10 rounds at Christmas on a 2 euro stake, otherwise always just change. And that with over 1000 free spins. Should you be happy if you deposit 500 euros, get 100 free spins on a stake of up to 2 euros and can request a payout of 1000?? That doesn't make any sense. In my opinion, there is no bigger scam than Pragmatic Play games. Does this also have a connection with my casino cashwin.com?

Und es geht weiter auf Christmas Big bass , 13 mal auf 2 Euro Einsatz , ein Gewinn für 215 Euro sonst alle anderen unter 80 Euro. 13 mal 200 Euro pro Freispiele und nie was vernünftiges.

Davor mehr als 50 Freispiele mit Gewinne unter 100 Euro.

Absolute Software personenbezogene Einstellungen. Kann kein Mensch was anderes erzählen. Habe über 1000 Screenshots. Der größte Gewinn 800 Euro mit mal 10 Runde bei Christmas auf 2 Euro Einsatz sonst immer nur Kleingeld . Und das bei über 1000 Freispiele. Sollte man sich freuen wenn man 500 Euro einzahlt, 100 Freispiele bekommt auf bis 2 Euro Einsatz und dafür 1000 Auszahlung beantragen kann ?? Das macht doch kein Sinn. Es gibt in meine Augen kein größeres Betrug als Pragmatic Play Spiele. Ob das auch mit mein Casino cashwin.com ein Zusammenhang hat ?

Do you realize that 100 free spins on 1 euro are 10,000 euros in the end?? And I had at least 100 from Friday to today and not only on 1 euro but also on 2 euros, 1.50 and 1.20. And I've only just bought 1000. That's not 10 percent. Mathematically you can say pure fraud!!

Ist euch Bewusst, 100 Freispiele auf 1 Euro sind 10000 Euro am Ende ja ?? Und ich hatte mindestens 100 seit Freitag bis heute und nicht nur auf 1 Euro sonder auch auf 2 Euro, 1,50 und 1,20. Und habe gerade so mal 1000 angeschafft. Das sind keine 10 Prozent. Mathematischen kann man sagen Betrug Pur !!

No they are all the same in my experience it used to be ok on some slots but less players means they need to maximise their profits from the ones that do by making it harder to win and make sure when you get a bonus it's not enough to escape with a nice profit and you end up losing it all. Take the advice I'm giving my self it's all a con = online casinos they are out to fleece you out of your money because slots are fixed not to pay. Time to give it up and find something else to do. As a last example I joined a casino today with a free chip $35 got one bonus on fortunes of olympus 12 spins = 0000000000!! It's a joke 🤣🤮🤬

I have been playing online slots since 2013, what you have been doing in the last 12 months is unprecedented. All providers are sealed, they don't give anything. The provider "fazi" is worse than "pracmatic" if he gives you a win X 100 then you have to lose 2-3 times the win he gave you to get a profit again. There are 2 cases, one is that they have taken down the rtp because fewer players are playing or less money is playing, the other is that we are dealing with big thieves who have become much more greedy than before. You used to get your lost money back if you had consecutive losses, now you don't. Notice that in no casino you have a win after a big win X 2500, this happens because there is an image of your account among the providers, so if you win, all the providers find out and drop your rtp to 0. I had a big win at "the rave " by nolimit and on ronnin by "hakzaw", the winnings were X 2500 with €0.60, after that no provider gave a profit. I have been playing "THE RAVE" for 5 years, it gave me a win x 2500, it is not allowed not to give a win again after this win that happened on 8/10/2023, you do not allow it not to give me any free spins, I have played thousands of euros in this game, you don't allow them to close after a big win, I haven't played in hakzaw and I don't expect frequent wins, but in "nolimit" you don't allow me to be treated like this. So everyone is a fraud, for all this today I decided not to play slots again, but I will come here to write to help whoever I can, sorry for the long text!

I am glad that a much larger number of gamblers notice this barbarity on the part of suppliers. As I mentioned earlier. The climax was COVID-19. And to quote Klaus Schwab's... "You will have nothing and you will be happy." Only people who are intelligent and trust their intuition notice these radical changes. We should unite and do everything in our power to ensure that providers like Pragmatic Play fall to the bottom and cannot recover. This will, in part, save the gambling world. Any ideas Guys?

You can't mess with them, they're giants... all you can do is save yourself from playing like I'm about to do again. There are no control mechanisms, that's why these things happen, if there were, things wouldn't be like this. What to do in front of a giant like "pragmatic", give me an idea... sue... what will you gain?

There is only one answer that's to individually stop depositing your money at any casino and give them and the providers your cash as your chance of winning is less than 10%. They manipulate the games with sophisticated software that prevents you from winning big if anything at all. I deposited over €1000 in the last 3mths and not the sign of a win. I admit I got addicted to slots and now I'm over it. I have taken up learning Spainish instead of playing. Duo lingo offer free courses which are good if you want to spend your time in a more positive way. I will also use the money I have wasted gambling to have a nice holiday in September so take the measures to make sure you stop 😁

You can't sue them they didn't force you to play just pack it all in!!😜

Today they took my last money, how long has it been since you stopped playing, do you feel like playing again?